hello i have an official schengen visa wich i was allowed to use it for 7 days but i stayed longer in europe .i wanna go back to my home country cause im together with a swedish girl now and i need to go back to apply for another visumim going to travel from copenhagen airport but i would like to know am i going to have any trouble or are they going to fined me or make me an prohibiton to travel in schengen states,thanks. Thank you so much, Im feeling a little relief. Its probably best to leave from a country you have spent the least amount of time in, like Italy. After talking with a consulate today, it seems like they (Greece) arent likely to extend my schengen visa, so Ill be overstaying I was thinking I might ferry to Turkey and fly home out of Istanbul (much cheaper than flying from Greece)- if Im deported, fine with me; Im already on my way out! Day 11: flight to Switzerland Thanks a lot for your prompt response. Hey Lindsey, its amazing what you are doing! The question is can i re-enter schengen this year 2017 without any question? I wouldnt advise trying to find out for oneself which group they belong to. Ive heard of two occasions recently where UK citizens have been fined 300 and 500 for overstaying by a few days. This would definitely be an easy case to appeal if you are able to provide the evidence to prove the flight was delayed and you had originally booked the correct dates. What alerted you to knowing about Schengen? Honestly- I would rather stay in Italy than spend two weeks in London but I have been getting so paranoid about getting caught for over staying. Am I technically illegal now? My name is Hasan. I came from Thailand and I think that Morocco is not in Schengen country. Thank you so much for reading and replying. Im planning on overstaying for a few days. he didnt fingerprint me or let me sign any documents but he also didnt gave me an exit stamp. Happy travels! And because I was scared to leave home for Christmas and not being allowed back I stayed in Spain. I believed them, so I went to Geneva for 7 times this year (average staying 20 days) the problem happened in July this year. That will be an issue if that happens. Happy travels! But for anybody who is in a similar situation here in Poland. , Hi, I feel like there are not enough people sharing their stories of being caught! Also, were you deported from Switzerland? I think you should re-apply for the visa there is not a lot you can do since the law was broken very obviously without trying to get extensions. No computer system with the passport. Hey Christian, thanks for writing in. You can always appeal the decisions. I have a good job in the US, and have to maintain my residency here as well, so I would NEVER purposely overstay as I have a life here too. Everything will happen for a reason, so make sure you get the best out of the situation by focusing on your studies everything else will fall into place for you. I had the capacity to go home to USA but chose not to because the situation felt more dangerous because of the rapid spread of the virus. Technically, your visa has been rejected twice, and I am not sure if you are allowed to keep staying when they are rejecting. Congratulations on the baby!! Can you try leaving a day early? Q: I have had an investor visa with residence in 2014. Best of luck! This sounds like a tricky situation. They could deny him a tourist or a work visa. If I eventually left Spain using my Canadian passport, would they care anymore that I overstayed seeing as though I would now be an EU citizen? In the meantime, my current situation is that I am a Singaporean and have just arrived in Germany together with my German boyfriend of 4 years on 09/Jan/2019. Hey! Also, they can actually deny you entry after you have flown into Europe. I'm afraid she has probably been scared off. Just play it cool and apologetic if questioned. I suggest directly contacting your school administration or the Spanish immigration board that issues your student visas. Hi Lindsey, Dont stress Its good youre looking in to this. This involves me being illegal here for 9 months. I really appreciate your page, its helped calm me with my situation. However, I wish to stay for at least 20 days. I suggest making sure you stay out of Schengen for at least 90 days to make sure you can clear the 90/180 rule when you return. What would be the best country to leave Europe to avoid a posible ban to enter in the future? In 2015 when I came back to Nigeria from Spain, I wrote to the Italian Embassy and I explained what happened and why I overstayed but no reply from them till date and I decided not to push since it seems to me not to be a case. If you do not pay the fine ever, your visa will most likely always be denied in the future. Is this situation likely to affect her ability to get a longterm visa or to return to Spain? Hei Lindsey, If caught a 2nd time, they could ban you from Europe. Despite their differences, in general, the Member States apply the following penalties on those caught overstaying, including on Britons starting from this year: Despite the consequences listed above, some travellers may not be subject to any of them, in particular those who cannot travel for a strong reason that can be proved. You can always appeal if you get denied, and plead your case about the confusion. She also reported that authorities refused to acknowledge flight bookings as proof of exit from Spain. Your blog is wonderful and very informative to us who have a lot of questions regarding our Schengen visa. When I contacted the Irish Embassy in Boston in March, I was told that the application had been approved and that it would take a few weeks for the certificate to be sent in the mail. In case of a prison sentence of 6 months and more Im a US citizen living in Germany as an Au Pair. Will they let me in the country or is the over stay still on my reccored? Hello Lindsey, I would like to know if I can be able to get a schengen visa again. Another scenario is to stay here for the most of my pregnancy and then leave to give birth in Russia (where my family is) or in the US If I decide to leave it will probably be on the 7th month, so I would overstay by 6 months. uk border agency inspects your passport when you return( at Calais ) if uk border agency asks you tell them , you left the uk for a day trip.no one will know when you leave the uk and enter France . In November, she would fly directly from Lisbon to London (non-Schengen), and then go on to Split, Croatia from there. Please don't be the ugly American who acts as if the rules don't apply to you. So Ive basically overstayed my visa for close to 2 years now. I am sure it was not deliberate, but she will need to provide proof the company had said they would handle it. Dear Lindsay, Great that I found this article. What a cool opportunity for your son! I believe Denmark is one of the only countries I have seen it officially documented, and I confirmed it on the phone with their immigration board. There is no one-day turnover to reset your time. That Schengen country can bust you for overstaying Schengen (since you would be outside Poland) and not even let you inside THEIR country. I think youll be fine, just make sure to pay attention to visa rules, because it can turn around and effect you in travel down the road. please help, iam so confused. I am considering overstaying by 6 days (until the 11th) to save 600$ and visit a dear friend who lives in southern Spain. I was allowed to do that when I was living in Greece, and then got my Swedish work visa (I applied from the U.S., entered on a tourist visa to Europe, picked my visa up in Greece, and then was able to enter Sweden on it months later). Thanks for your service to the red, white & blue! but you will also need to make sure all of your flights and connecting flights do not touch down in a Schengen country, or else you will be automatically denied entry. It's understandable human nature, imo, to try every angle. Hi, I am an indian national and have been living in Barcelona from 5 years. Spain is one of my favorite countries, so I dont blame you for trying every trick in the book to stay there. Since I intend to keep coming bak in the future (my fiance is here) I would like to make sure that this will not affect my arrivals in the future. If not then how long should I wait? Marc Garcia Palma from Age in Spain, an organisation which is providing assistance to Brits in Catalonia, Balearic Islands, Canary Islands and North of Spain, said: While you are on waiting period to receive resolution of your application you are allowed to stay in Spain even if you surpass the 90 days-period that third country nationals have, so while you are waiting for the resolution you have nothing to worry about.. Since you entered Schengen May 8th, you are at 134/180 days with 84 days spent in Schengenso you only have 5 days left before you are considered illegal status. Im sorry for such a lengthy essay, do hope you can help me! My flight to Greece is on the 15th of this month and my return flight to Barcelona is on the 21st. If you have everything from the Embassy in writing, I would have it all printed when you eventually make your exit. Thanks for the great work you are doing. He had all of the documents and everything lined up untill he made a huge blunder. I depart from Amsterdam on the 2. This looks like an interesting guide! They may question you, however, if they notice your old stamps. Hey! I have written about this issue on my Top Questions about Schengen Visa Overstay under Situation E. The validity of your visa has nothing to do with your allowed days. As my wife is in Germany right now (processing a Verpflichtungairklairung) For more information visit: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/residency-requirements-in-spain. I told you to be careful when going through Germany! As of now my boyfriend has no work yet so his mom will be my sponsor going there as she has job and own a house there. I am an Australian citizen in France at the moment. In the study, first reported by the Irish Times, respondents were asked the hypothetical question: Imagine there were a referendum in [your country] tomorrow about membership of the European Union. Im happy to say they let me through with no fine and no ban. My question is : have they overstayed and can they be fined or even deported if they have to go to The us to get the papers done? The immigration board for visas will see your previous visa history when you apply for a new visa, so if asked, dont lie about it. Hey, Lindsey I come across ur site after searching about overstayed visa. Its definitely not 90 days in each country There are chances you could get caught, of course, and penalized. For Americans, there are few options, but here is one for teaching/studying and another work other employment. I see comments about passports being flagged what does that mean? Im hoping that the more new stamps I can get before reentering the schengen will make my passport less likely to be discovered. Where I can employ the spokes of the wheel travel strategy from NYC. Thanks for writing in. The U.S. and most of Europe is in what the Romanian authorities call the red zone. Oh well, well see what happens. I knew that the embassies ask for a flight ticket just for turistics and short terms visas. Comment: Hello, I travel to EU a lot with my wife she is Australian , am Moroccan citizen and living in united Arab emirates i have many visa from EU from different country in EU have got my last visa for 90 days available from 20th June 2016 until / 1st June 2017 from embassy of France in Dubai The only issues would be exiting Schengen. Thanks for writing in. Hello! just on my tourist visa.. obviously I'm in trouble. You were not banned, so your application should eventually go through. Also to add for those reading this & looking to stay in Germany, its good to know Americans are able to register themselves for a residence permit on entry (longer than 90 day stay). You can travel to a non-schengen country, but you cannot cross back in (even for a layover) unless you stay in that non-schengen country for 90 days. Alberto Serrano. Your UK visa has no jurisdiction in Schengen, so youd be on the 90-day tourist for other Euro countries. In any case we need to depart on 20 Oct latest. I have been traveling between Spain and Italy via boat and have never once been asked for my passport by any police officer. My question is can I stay little more for travel around after 11 December or should I leave the Spain before that time? So this website can function correctly please whitelist The Local with your adblocker, antivirus software or browser add on. Hey George. Since my request for extension hasnt been responded to yet, what are the likely scenario fines- how much? we have Netherlands visa and we exit from Italy i was in Italy when my daughter was ill and that is the main reason we have not extend visas anyhow there are some people who told me different ides to re-apply for the visa for example some people told me embassy do not have any record for entry or exit and we exit from another country mean Italy so just get new passport and re-apply for the vises .. what would you suggest ??? Hi Joe! Happy travels . She answered that it wont be a problem for me to stay long because Im a wife of a Greek citizen and when Im in Greece I can apply for residency.. anyway, the thing is that I found out here that she tricked us, and now Im in the situation of paying the fine, being ban or deported I dont know and Im very concern, because I have my ticket going back to the US on June 5th 2019 Id say come back to us here when you have your decision. I am currently living in Germany with my girlfriend. Any suggestions to ease my nerves? Youre doing an amazing thing for so many people around the world! Even if I make it out without a fine, is it possible or likely that I'll be denied entrance on revisiting in, say, a few months' time? 66 days in shengen area and 52 in Spain. Thanks! I will not be returning to the Schengen area until our wedding which will be in Italy in July 2019. Spain tends to have a more lenient control in general. Then you only have 90 days in all of these countries combined. Thanks for the kind words. because once youre banned from one Schengen country, youre banned from all of them. They can ban you from returning or make you pay a fine on the spot. Whats up Hasan! Hey David! The flight leaves from Madrid and then I would have a layover at London Gatwick before going back to California. My goal was always to figure out a legal way to live in the countries I loved that is why I now help people find alternative LEGAL routes to live in Europe. i moved to turkey last 2015 to obtain citizenship, now i have turkish passport. we planning to get married immediatly.however it did not happened that way Its been 4months now and we havent married yet because of money and amount of paper work required to get married in germany.its stressing cause im illegal and causing lots of problems between us, so i thought of being an uapir to help pay for translation and all paperwork needed with the little money. vice versa.. Hey Stanley! Very correct, just because I have not heard of someone not being allowed back into the Schengen Zone on a tourist visa after previously overstaying does not mean that it has not happened before. Wishing you luck! So you have a Hungarian visa but youre in Germany? WebIf you leave Spain, you may be registered as having overstayed the 90-day period by Spanish immigration. Try having a layover in Germany or Amsterdam so you go through security first in another Schengen country. . But since the bilateral agreement predates the time Poland joined the EU (2004), that in effect the bilateral agreement has authority over the new Schengen agreement. You can legally come back the next day for a fresh start. Hey Jess, probably not, but I had one reader who did get a 10 year ban from overstaying 1 days in Netherlands. Switzerland is very strict with visas, and the visa is put into place exactly for the reason of controlling how long people are within their country/region. My husband was on a B1, which allows 6 months to stay and left after 3 months, and returned about 1 month later, and they detained him at the airport for 2 hours asking why he came backand he was legally allowed to do so. I came to Spain in September of 2016 (entered Schengen via Portugal), to live with my fiancee (shes Spanish). I really scared now that they will reject me to get tourist visa or spouse visa if I get caught on airport and get ban to return to Belgium again. I was also thinking of flying Greece to France/Denmark because they have some agreements with the US, but dont know if my passport would be checked when flying to there; once Im in the other country though, I should be good. Anyway, the truth of the matter is you could be anywhere in Europe. Hello there! However, there are a few rules I have come across as a solo backpacker that just plain piss me off. a student in Germany. I also got an amazing opportunity to work with a Russian choreographer for a performance in Barcelona in July and this is why I want to see if I can fix my visa and be able to stay a bit longer without getting in trouble when leaving. The most important part is the time allowed. Dont worry nothing is going to happen to you now You might be questioned in the future because they keep records that you had overstayed, but since you paid the fine, then the officer was correct in saying the chapter is closed. You can go ahead and apply for new visas just make sure you are very clear and organized about your listed travel plans on the visa application and when entering Europe in the future. Should my fiance try to leave undetected and then apply for a student or other type of visa from elsewhere? 2. I need your advice. Check it out! I have C-type business multi-entry visa valid from July 3, 2018 until January 2, 2019 with duration of stay 60 days. My partner is a Polish national who has been working in Spain for 1 year. Please let me know anything I can do, I would appreciate it so much! More information can also be found in the brochure Visa for a temporary stay. It is fine if he goes to the UK as he can stay up to 6-months as a non-working tourist. Sally, here's some useful info, it sure doesn't look like it's taken lightly! go to Mexico or canada. How can I buy iPhone from USA to India Quora? My understanding is, if you are out of the country you will start 0 day again. You should not continue to be in Schengen on an expired student visa it could be an easier target for border control to identify. Anyone who was living in Spain before 1 January 2021, but does not yet have their residency documentation, should take steps to register as soon as possible. My advice would be to make sure you leave before June 10th, which is when your visa officially expires, and also be prepared if they ask you questions on exit. Im currently in my last month of my doctorate in Iceland, and Im originally from the US (been living in Iceland on a student visa for almost three years). According to the Schengen Agreement, you are not permitted to remain in the Schengen Area for longer than 90 days without paying a fine, facing possible deportation, and being prohibited from returning. The main one if you have already been deported once (if you say they sent you back to your country). Look, overstaying should not be a way of life. If my Slovakian citizenship is made official before my 90 day Canadian tourist limit is up, am I allowed to legally stay in Spain for longer than that 90 day limit? I am not sure and certainly not an expert in these matters to reckon if authorities will be so tough on him or will they show some liniency towards him. The officer spoke with another officer then made a photocopy of my passport including stamps, he then stamped my passport with the normal exit stamp and sent me on my way. It is invaluable. Hi Lindsey, Coming to Europe to find jobs is legal, but overstaying could cause issues in the future. Weve done some digging and found that according to article 53.1.a of Spains Immigration Bill, surpassing the 90 days could be considered a serious violation in the eyes of the law, with fines going from 501 to 10,000, a possible expulsion from Spain as well as a potential ban from the Schengen area for six months to five years.. Hey Dana! For your question, if they never said anything to you, I am sure youll be fine. What do you think about my situation? Can you please help me understand how this could be called overstayed if my visa was expiring on August 14th and I got out of Schengen area even before August 1st. I believe in this situation, they might give you information that your child will need to apply for dual citizenship (Greek or Irish) for future returns. I found your blog to be very helpful for me. Long story short, I asked where I could fly to, since while waiting here for my permit, I have technically overstayed by around 25 days. Thank you. It was a mistake to overstay and now dont know what to expect!?! I am a U.S. citizen with no previous overstays. Obviously resident visas are put in place for a reason, otherwise wed all have our go at just randomly moving places, and it would be a big mess . Im from Brazil so I do not need a schengen visa to enter Europe so this is my situation, I got a VISA D and a residence permit to work in Switzerland for 4 months last year, after this expired I left Switzerland and stayed 90 days within the visa free in Sweden , after this finished I went to the UK for another 90 days and enter again Sweden for other 90 days and finally left to my home country and now waiting another 90 days to go back to Europe through Spain. In Germany, a fine of up to 3,000 is possible while in Spain it can range from 500 to 10,000. Hey Gallen! Yes, I absolutly think that was the reason why the visa was denied. My husband is unsure about paying the fee given if not approved; he would still have to pay a fine upon exiting the country. So best stick to non-Schengen. Overstaying in Schengen area. I am assuming you are from a Schengen country? Youre out. If you are staying more, you need an au pair visa or a youth mobility visa. Anyway, my main question remains, how do we find out the info about our travels that is stored in the Schengen Information System? Hello: Serious offenses are punishable by a fine ranging from 501 to 10,000 euros. Will it make me look less suspicious when re-entering Madrid? I am a US citizen who overstayed my tourist visa in Spain. Thank you for getting back to me on the below query. Get informed and plan accordingly to avoid potential fines and denied entry to the EU. The VIS (visa information system) tracks it for them when they scan it, so they can see automatically. You can use my calculator to help determine how many eligible days your son has left: http://www.everyoneinbetween.com/schengen-visa-calculator. I am an American living in Madrid, Spain on a 1 year student visa. Can they tell how long I have been home/ do they really check for that? Depending on what country you are from, you might have received less than 90 days inside, and then usually you need to be out of Schengen for 90 days before your next entry. What is the maximum fine in Spain? However, if they LEAVE the country while their application is pending, I dont think they can come back until it is approved. I honestly suggest calling your embassy and asking for advice on this specific case to make sure if you decide to stay and hire a lawyer to appeal you are legally entitled to stay in the country. i applied 2 years ago and they denied because my data is in SIS. If you are accepted, then everything will be ok! Hey Elizabeth! 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